Eichmann Trial // Session 070.04 - 08-Jun-1961 // Session 075.01 - 08-Jun-1961 (VT EI119) [ET]. D: Hurwitz [US, 1961]

Fritz Bauer Institut · Cinematography of the Holocaust

ID	FBW003188 Documentary, footage
Country / Year	USA, 1961
Original Title	Eichmann Trial // Session 070.04 - 08-Jun-1961 // Session 075.01 - 08-Jun-1961 (VT EI119) [ET]
Other Title(s)	Eichmann-Prozess // Sitzung 070.04 - 08.06.1961 // Sitzung 075.01 - 08.06.1961 (VT EI119) [ÜT] (German) The Trial of Adolf Eichmann [ET]
Directed by	Leo Hurwitz (Bildregie)
Produced by	Capital Cities Broadcasting Corporation, New York, NY
Staff	Producer: Milton Fruchtman; Production assistance: Alan Rosenthal; Camera: Fred Csasznik, Jakub Jonilowicz, Rolf Michael Kneller, Jacob Kalach, Emil Knebel; Camera supervision: Leo Hurwitz
Appearance	Gideon Hausner (Generalstaatsanwalt); Raya Kagan (Zeugin); Yitzhak Raveh (Richter); Benjamin Halevi (Richter); Moshe Landau (Richter, Vorsitzender des israelischen Obersten Gerichtshofs); Robert Servatius (Eichmanns Verteidiger); Esther Goldstein (Zeugin); Adolf Eichmann
Length	75'10''
Format	2'' Tape/sw
Dates	- 08 Jun 1961: Shooting period, Jerusalem
Abstract	Session No. 70.04: Testimonies of Raya Kagan and Esther Goldstein. Session No. 75.01: Discussion on the submission as evidence of a letter from Kappler to Wolff describing the operation against the Jewish community of Rome, Descision regarding the above document, Discussion on request to take evidence from Jeno Levai, and accepting two documents as auxiliary instruments, Submission of further sections of the Sassen Document and further documents.
Subject Terms	Auschwitz (Entire camp complex); Eichmann trial; Selektion an der Rampe; Crimes against humanity
Holdings	- Steven Spielberg Jewish Film Archive, Jerusalem: 75'10''; DigiBeta - USHMM, Washington, DC: 75'10''; DigiBeta - Israel State Archive, Jerusalem: 75'10''; DigiBeta - Israel State Archive, Jerusalem: 75'10''; 2'' Tape
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Contents (detailed)	=== Einstellungsprotokoll (- min/sek): - 00'39’’ ARCHIV-VORSPANN === Sitzung 70.04: === [Vorangehende Verhandlung der Sitzung auf Band EICHMANN TRIAL // SESSION 082.03 / 087.01 / 070.00 / 073.03 / 075.01 / 29-JUN-1961 / 06-JUL-1961 / 08-JUN-1961 / 12-JUN-1961 / 20-JUN-1961 / [ET] (VT EI204) [ET], 38'15''-46'40''] - 00'53'' Gideon Hausner (Generalstaatsanwalt) - 01'04'' Raya Kagan (Zeugin), Hausner unscharf - 01'35'' Hausner (nah) - 01'40'' Kagan, Hausner unscharf - 01'53'' Hausner (nah), er setzt sich - 01'59'' Kagan (nah) - 02'02'' Benjamin Halevi (Richter), Moshe Landau (Vorsitzender Richter) u.Yitzhak Raveh (Richter) - 02'05'' Gerichtssaal mit Zeugenstand (total), Servatius stehend - 02'11'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh - 02'12'' Gerichtssaal mit Zeugenstand (total), Kagan verlässt Zeugenstand - 02'20'' Hausner - 02'32'' Publikum - 03'01'' Gerichtssaal (total) - 03'04'' Esther Goldstein (Zeugin) kommt durchs Publikum zum Zeugenstand - 03'31'' Landau - 03'34'' Goldstein (nah) - 03'43'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, setzt sich - 03'54'' Goldstein, Hausner unscharf - 03'58'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, Gerichtsmitarbeiter bringt ihr Wasserglas u. richtet Mikrophon - 04'12'' Hausner - 14'37'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand - 04'42'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner unscharf - 05'13'' Hausner, Gerichtsmitarbeiter bringt ihm Wasserglas - 05'21'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner unscharf - 05'34'' Hausner nimmt Foto entgegen - 05'58'' Hausner geht zu Goldstein, legt ihr Foto vor u. reicht ihr Stift - 06'29'' Foto (nah), Goldstein mit weißem Kopftuch u. ihre Schwestern - 06'39'' Goldstein (nah) betrachtet Foto - 06'53'' Foto (nah) Goldsteins Vater, [Herr] Kellermann, [Herr] Belsher, [Herr] Weishaus - 07'05'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner - 07'17'' Foto (nah) Goldsteins Vater, Kellermann, Belsher, Weishaus - 07'34'' Goldstein (nah) - 07'48'' Foto (nah), Bekannte von Goldstein - 08'13'' Goldstein (nah) - 08'18'' Foto (nah), Goldstein mit weißem Kopftuch u. ihre Schwestern - 08'54'' Goldstein u. Hausner (nah) - 09'00'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, Hausner u. Gerichtsmitarbeiter - 09'05'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh - 09'09'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand u. Hausner, Gerichtsmitarbeiter überreicht Landau Fotos - 09'21'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh - 09'34'' Goldstein (nah) - 09'46'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh betrachten Fotos - 10'12'' Goldstein (nah) - 10'20'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh betrachten Foto u. notieren etwas - 11'29'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, Hausner u. Gerichtsmitarbeiter - 11'34'' Goldstein (nah) - 11'42'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, Hausner u. Gerichtsmitarbeiter, Goldstein stützt Kopf in Hände u. trinkt Wasser - 12'08'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, Hausner u. Gerichtsmitarbeiter, Hausner zeigt Foto - 12'16'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh, Halevi u. Landau betrachten Foto - 12'22'' Goldstein (nah) - 12'28'' Foto (nah), Goldstein mit weißem Kopftuch u. ihre Schwestern - 12'34'' Goldstein (nah) - 12'39'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand u. Hausner, Gerichtsmitarbeiter überreicht Landau Fotos - 12'56'' Foto (nah), KZ-Häftlinge - 13'12'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand u. Hausner - 13'24'' Halvei, Landau u. Raveh, Landau notiert etwas - 13'36'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand u. Hausner, Gerichtsmitarbeiter - 13'40'' Halevi u. Landau, Landau hält Foto in Hand - 13'44'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand u. Hausner, Gerichtsmitarbeiter - 13'50'' Goldstein (nah) - 14'04'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh - 14'28'' Gerichtssaal mit Zeugenstand (total) - 14'34'' Goldstein (nah) - 14'39'' Foto (nah), Shmilowitz Schwestern - 15'00'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner - 15'19'' Foto (nah) Frauen u. Männer bei der Selektion??? - 15'39'' Goldstein (nah) - 15'42'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh - 15'59'' Goldstein (nah) - 16'06'' Goldstein u. Hausner - 16'16'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh betrachten Fotos u. notieren etwas - 16'25'' Goldstein (nah) trinkt Wasser u. nimmt etwas aus Handtasche - 16'42'' Halevi, Landa u. Raveh - 16'47'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner zeigt Foto - 16'57'' Foto (nah) Frauen bei Selektion - 17'11'' Goldstein (nah) - 17'22'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh betrachten Fotos u. notieren etwas - 18'05'' Goldstein u. Hausner - 18'10'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner überreicht Gerichtsmitarbeiter Foto - 18'20'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh betrachten Fotos u. notieren etwas - 18'55'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner zeigt Foto - 19'04'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh, Gerichtsmitarbeiter überreicht Landau Foto u. gibt Foto an Servatius weiter - 19'09'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh betrachten Fotos u. notieren etwas - 19'27'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner zeigt Foto - 19'56'' Goldstein u. Hausner - 19'59'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh betrachten Fotos u. notieren etwas - 20'13'' Hausner zeigt Goldstein Foto - 20'20'' Goldstein (nah) - 20'25'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh betrachten Fotos u. notieren etwas - 20'45'' Goldstein (nah) - 20'52'' Landau u. Raveh, markieren Foto - 21'10'' Markierung (nah) - 21'16'' Goldstein (nah) - 21'23'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, Hausner u. Gerichtsmitarbeiter - 21'40'' Raveh u. Landau blättern in Fotoalbum (nah) - 21'58'' Goldstein trinkt Wasser (nah) - 22'04'' Raveh u. Landau blättern in Fotoalbum (nah) - 22'17'' Goldstein (nah) - 22'25'' Raveh blättert in Fotoalbum, Landau notiert - 22'39'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, Hausner u. Gerichtsmitarbeiter - 22'42'' Raveh u. Landau - 22'48'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, Hausner u. Gerichtsmitarbeiter - 22'53'' Raveh betrachtet Fotos, Landau notiert - 23'04'' Foto (nah), Menschenmassen - 23'14'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand, Hausner u. Gerichtsmitarbeiter - 23'18'' Goldstein (nah) - 23'45'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh - 23'57'' Gerichtssaal mit Zeugenstand (total) - 24'02'' Halevi, Landau u. Raveh, Raveh blättert in Fotoalbum - 24'27'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner unscharf - 24'35'' Landau u. Raveh, Landau notiert - 25'06'' Gerichtssaal mit Zeugenstand (total) - 25'12'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner unscharf - 25'34'' Gerichtssaal mit Zeugenstand (total), Gerichtsmitarbeiter bringt Goldstein Glas Wasser - 25'40'' Goldstein (nah) - 26'19'' Foto (nah), Mutter mit zwei Kindern - 26'27'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner unscharf " I will not hand them over..." - 26'51'' Hausner - 26'56'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner unscharf - 27'24'' Hausner - 27'32'' Goldstein (nah) - 28'32'' Hausner - 28'38'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner unscharf - 29'07'' Hausner blättert in Unterlagen - 29'30'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand - 30'00'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner unscharf - 30'10'' Goldstein im Zeugenstand - 30'16'' Goldstein (nah), Hausner unscharf - 30'27'' Servatius - 30'39'' Gerichtssaal (total) - 30'46'' Raveh - 30'48'' Goldstein (nah) - 30'56'' Raveh u. Landu (nah) - 31'00'' Goldstein (nah) - 31'06'' Landau - 31'09'' Gerichtssaal (total), Goldstein verlässt Zeugenstand - 31'14'' Landau - 31'21'' Servatius u. Hausner - 31'26'' Landau - 31'36'' Eichmann im Glaskasten - 31'40'' Landau - 31'54'' Servatius u. Hausner - 32'07'' Landau steht auf, ebenso Halevi u. Raveh - 32'27'' Eichmann verlässt Glaskasten - 32'40'' Servatius, Hausner, Bach, Baror stehend - 33'00'' Gerichtssaal mit Publikum (total) - 33'16'' Publikum - 33'59'' Schwarzfilm - 34'02'' Filmklappe "TRIAL OF ADOLF EICHMANN / DATE: JUNE 8.1961 / SESSION: A.M.I. / END /Produced by / MILTON FRUCHTMAN / Directed by / LEO HURWITZ / CAPITAL CITIES BROADCASTING CORPORATION" - 34'15'' Schwarzfilm - 34'22'' ARCHIV-VORSPANN - 34'52'' Servatius u. Assistentin === Sitzung 75.01: ??? === === Tonprotokoll, Engl. Übersetzung (- min/sek): === Sitzung 70.04: === [Vorangehende Verhandlung der Sitzung auf Band EICHMANN TRIAL // SESSION 082.03 / 087.01 / 070.00 / 073.03 / 075.01 / 29-JUN-1961 / 06-JUL-1961 / 08-JUN-1961 / 12-JUN-1961 / 20-JUN-1961 / [ET] (VT EI204) [ET], 38'15''-46'40''] - 00’53’’ Hausner: Marta approached the Hungarians and told them, she advised them that they should ask to be tattooed - 01’00’’ Hausner: Human relations among the workers, among the prisoners, can you say something about that? - 01’03’’ Kagan: In this hell of Auschwitz, we, for our part, remained alive owing to the fact that there was friendship between us, however strange that may seem. In this place, there was friendship, and there were many instances of solidarity. This was not the case everywhere. The differences were considerable. In a Kommando where there was a collaborator, such as our Kapo, in the Politische Abteilung and in the Standesamt - 01’35’’ Hausner: But within the unit that you knew? - 01’38’’ Kagan: In our unit, we dragged typhus patients with a forty degree temperature, we dragged them to the office so that they should not remain in the camp, so that they should not be included in a selection - 01’55’’ Hausner: Is that what kept you going, a solidarity of human relationships, friendship and mutual help? - 01’58’’ Kagan: And devotion which knew no bounds - 02’07’’ Landau: Dr. Servatius, do you have any additional questions relating to these last questions? - 02’11’’ Servatius: I have no questions - 02’13’’ Landau: Thank you very much, Mrs. Kagan, you have concluded your testimony - 02’25’’ Hausner: I call the next witness, Mrs. Esther Goldstein, and I would request Exhibit No. T/1118 - 04’02’’ Hausner: Are you a member of Kibbutz Kfar Ruppin? - 04’06’’ Goldstein: Yes - 04’11’’ Hausner: In 1944, you were deported to Auschwitz from detention in Katzow, which is in Carpatho-Russia? - 04’19’’ Goldstein: Yes - 04’26’’Landau: Was this Hungarian territory? - 04’28’’ Goldstein: Yes - 04’47’’ Hausner: Which members of your family accompanied you? - 04’48’’ Goldstein: My father, my mother, my three sisters, a married sister with her two children, and my brother - 05’14’’ Hausner: Who, of all these, remained alive? - 05’19’’ Goldstein: My sisters and my brother remained alive - 05’27’’ Hausner: One of the sisters had two children did they survive? - 05’30’’ Goldstein: No - 05’38’’ Hausner: I have here a set of photographs which are included in Exhibit T/1118. This is about the holocaust of Slovakian Jewry. With the Court's permission, I shall mark the photographs which the witness will be able to identify. May I approach the witness? - 05’55’’ Landau: Certainly - 06’04’’ Hausner: Can you identify yourself in this photograph? - 06’06’’ Goldstein: Yes - 06’08’’ Hausner: Where are you? - 06’10’’ Goldstein: In the middle, with a white kerchief - 06’15’’ Hausner: Can you identify anyone else in the photograph? - 06’20’’ Goldstein: My sisters - 06’32’’ Hausner: We shall mark these photographs in the album which we have already submitted In this photograph, can you identify anyone? - 06’40’’ Goldstein: My father, our doctor, Dr. Kellermann, our pharmacist Belsher, another pharmacist Weishaus, the owner of the grocery store Sager - 07’25’’ Hausner: Do you recognize them in this photograph? - 07’28’’ Goldstein: Yes - 07’30’’ Hausner: Whom do you recognize in this photograph that I show you now? - 07’33’’ Goldstein: Kornfeld a neighbour of ours; he was conscripted into an Hungarian labour camp, he came on leave, was injured, and was also taken away with us. Here is Mr. Kramer, the owner of a grocery store, and Mr. Roth owner of an iron store - 08’22’’ Hausner: Where were these three photographs that I have just shown you taken? - 08’24’’ Goldstein: The photograph in which I appear, I remember, was taken after the selection in Auschwitz - 08’34’’ Hausner: Do you remember when the photograph was taken? - 08’35’’ Goldstein: Yes - 08’36’’ Hausner: Who took it? - 08’37’’ Goldstein: A German in SS uniform - 08’45’’ Hausner: And where were the other two photographs taken? - 08’48’’ Goldstein: I cannot say - 08’52’’ Hausner: From the surroundings, does it tell you anything? - 08’54’’ Goldstein: That it is next to the railway station in Auschwitz, for they travelled together with us - 09’02’’ Landau: Do these photographs appear in the album? - 09’06’’ Hausner: Yes, Your Honour, we have marked here the places where they appear. We can hand the Court these photographs which the witness has identified, and perhaps the book will also be before the Court - 11’55’’ Landau: I have marked these three photographs T/1333, T/1334, T/1335. Was the witness in this photograph? - 12’30’’ Hausner: Yes, with the white kerchief, in the centre. Here is a picture of people in prisoner's garb. Can you identify anyone here? - 12’32’’ Goldstein: Yes, the pharmacist, Belsher - 12’34’’ Hausner: The one you recognized in the previous photograph standing at the station? - 12’35’’ Goldstein: Yes - 12’43’’ Hausner: Do you recognize him here in prisoner's garb? - 12’35’’ Goldstein: Yes - 12’48’’ Landau: Where is he in these pictures? - 12’54’’ Hausner: In photograph No. 2, marked with three X's. We shall mark him here with an X - 13’10’’ Landau: With glasses? - 13’13’’ Goldstein: Yes - 13’22’’ Landau: This photograph will be marked T/1336 This last photograph is not in the book? - 13’22’’ Hausner: I think all the photographs are in the book. We took them from the book and enlarged them. In this picture, you are not able to identify anyone, but can you recognize the place? - 14’25’’ Goldstein: I can also recognize the women here are the Shmilowitz sisters and the Miller sisters from our village. Four Miller sisters - 15’03’’ Hausner: Did they arrive together with you, in the same transport? - 15’05’’ Goldstein: Yes - 15’06’’ Hausner: Is this the place where the selection was made? - 15’07’’ Goldstein: Yes - 15’15’’ Hausner: In this photograph, are you able to recognize the two girls who can be seen in the front of the picture? - 15’20’’ Goldstein: I don't remember their names, but these were twins, also from our village - 15’32’’ Hausner: Did they also arrive with you? - 15’34’’ Goldstein: Yes - 15’38’’ Landau: The two photographs will be marked T/1337, T/1338 - 16’48’’ Hausner: Is this what a women's roll-call in Auschwitz looked like? Is that correct? - 16’52’’ Goldstein: Correct, but that was not our camp - 16’57’’ Hausner: But in your camp, too, it looked like that? - 16’58’’ Goldstein: Yes - 17’35’’ Landau: This photograph will be marked T/1339 - 18’08’’ Hausner: This is what women looked like when going out to work in Auschwitz, is that right? - 18’11’’ Goldstein: Yes - 18’47’’ Landau: This photograph will be marked T/1340 - 18’53’’ Hausner: Is that how the camp looked before the selection? - 19’00’’ Goldstein: Near the railway - 19’21’’ Landau: This photograph will be marked T/1341 - 19’42’’ Hausner: Was that also near the railway, after your arrival? - 19’47’’ Goldstein: Yes - 19’48’’ Hausner: How long did you stand like this, as shown here in the picture? - 19’50’’ Goldstein: Not for long - 20’14’’ Landau: This photograph will be marked T/1342 - 20’18’’ Hausner: Where is this? - 20’22’’ Goldstein: Near the railway, before the selection - 20’58’’ Landau: This photograph will be marked T/1343 - 21’04’’ Hausner: Is this fence which appears here behind the people familiar to you? - 21’10’’ Goldstein: Yes, it is an electrified fence with high tension - 21’14’’ Hausner: Was this the high tension electrified fence of Auschwitz? - 21’20’’ Goldstein: Yes - 22’32’’ Landau: This photograph will be marked T/1344. Is this photograph also in the book? - 22’45’’ Hausner: All of them are in the book. If there should be any difficulty, we can point it out to Mr Bodenheimer during the recess And finally, this photograph. Can you recognize anyone? - 23’13’’ Goldstein: I recognize a woman here, but I cannot give you her name, since I don't remember - 23’15’’ Hausner: Is she from your village? - 23’20’’ Goldstein: No. I worked in the hospital in the ghetto, and there were people with us also from the environs - 22’27’’ Hausner: In what ghetto? - 22’28’’ Goldstein: Katzow - 22’30’’ Hausner: Where is she? - 22’32’’ Goldstein: I have marked her with an X - 23’44’’ Landau: This photograph will be marked T/1345. [To the witness] Did you recognize someone here? - 23’53’’ Hausner: She recognized a girl who worked with her in the hospital in the Katzow Ghetto. I have marked her with an X Mrs. Goldstein, of all these people whom you have identified in these photographs, who survived after the War? Witness - 25’14’’ Goldstein: My brother and my sisters - 25’25’’ Hausner: Of all those whom you recognized in the photographs? - 25’27’’ Goldstein: I know of one only, whose name was Kramer - 25’30’’ Hausner: Just that man? - 25’32’’ Goldstein: I am not aware of anybody else - 25’37’’ Hausner: You were taken off the freight cars, you were told to leave your personal effects behind? - 25’43’’ Goldstein: Yes - 25’47’’ Hausner: Who gave the orders? - 25’50’’ Goldstein: An SS man - 25’58’’ Hausner: Were the women separated from the men? - 26’02’’ Goldstein: Yes - 26’03’’ Hausner: Did the women and children stand together? - 26’04’’ Goldstein: Yes - 26’07’’ Hausner: Did your sister hold her daughter a baby and her son, who was five years old? - 26’13’’ Goldstein: Yes - 26’18’’ Hausner: An SS man camp up to your sister and asked her - 26’24’’ Goldstein: My mother was standing near us. He asked her whether she was our mother, and she said yes. Then he said to her: "Give the children to your mother." She said: "No, they are mine, I will not hand them over." There was an argument Afterwards, he called to a prisoner in prisoner's garb to translate for her, possibly in Yiddish, perhaps she would understand better. Then he said to her: "If you want to live, give your children to your mother." She said: "No, they are mine, I will not hand them over." Then the SS man came up to her, took the little girl and gave her to my mother, and he took the boy also by force - 27’13’’ Hausner: And they are no longer alive? - 27’14’’ Goldstein: No - 27’15’’ Hausner: Nor your mother? - 27’16’’ Goldstein: No - 27’26’’ Hausner: Were you in Camp C, in Birkenau? - 27’29’’ Goldstein: Yes - 27’31’’ Hausner: How many women were there in the whole block? - 27’33’’ Goldstein: One thousand women - 27’49’’ Hausner: Once a week, the notorious roll-call by Dr. Mengele took place for you? - 27’57’’ Goldstein: About once a week. When a rumour reached us that Mengele was coming, there was panic. We stood there, and we had to undress - 28’08’’ Hausner: You stood there naked? - 28’09’’ Goldstein: Naked. We pinched our lips, so that somehow we should look healthy - 28’16’’ Hausner: You mean your cheeks? - 28’17’’ Landau: Your lips or your cheeks? - 28’20’’ Goldstein: The cheeks. And he would select the weak ones or the thin ones - 28’31’’ Hausner: To be gassed? - 28’32’’ Goldstein: Yes - 28’34’’ Hausner: Did something else happen at the time of that selection? Was there some music? - 28’40’’ Goldstein: Once a selection took place, it took almost the whole day, and then an orchestra was present. They played for us the whole day. That was when there was a much larger selection - 28’52’’ Hausner: Was there a woman who assisted Dr. Mengele? - 28’56’’ Goldstein: Yes. Her name was Brechsler - 29’02’’ Hausner: Her name has already been mentioned in the evidence of the doctor yesterday - 29’06’’ Goldstein: She also used to make selections - 29’24’’ Hausner: There were Blockaelteste of various kinds in Auschwitz, I understand. There were good ones and evil ones? - 29’31’’ Goldstein: Yes, but most of them were good - 29’38’’ Hausner: Most of them were good? - 29’40’’ Goldstein: Yes. - 29’48’’ Hausner: How did you live? One thousand women in the block? - 29’50’’ Goldstein: There were a thousand women in the block twelve women in one bunk. There was only room to lie on one's side, head and feet protruding, and when one turned over, all the eleven others had to turn over. We received our food in one dish for twelve people, without spoons, without cups, twelve people eating from one dish. We counted the sips, so that one should not drink more than the next 30’30’’ Landau: Dr. Servatius, do you have any questions? - 30’34’’ Servatius: No, I have no questions to the witness - 30’38’’ Raveh: Were you given a number? - 30’39’’ Goldstein: No - 30’43’’ Raveh: On what date did you arrive? - 30’45’’ Goldstein: We arrived in May 1944; we were there for three months, and in August we left Auschwitz - 30’54’’ Raveh: All those who arrived with you did not get numbers? - 30’59’’ Goldstein: They did not get them. At that time no - 31’04’’ Landau: Mrs. Goldstein, you have concluded your testimony. Thank you very much. We can adjourn now. After the recess, you may show the films. The public will not be permitted to be present, apart from journalists, and, in addition, we have been asked to allow official observers of foreign governments to view this screening, and we shall permit that - 31’53’’ Hausner: Perhaps I may be permitted to request permission for the attendance of the director of Yad Vashem and a number of researchers, whose names we shall submit to the Court during the reces - 32’08’’ Landau: How many are there? - 32’10’’ Hausner: A small number - 32’11’’ Landau: Very well, we shall also allow that === === Session 75.01: ???